After changing her diet fixed Joy Houston’s fertility troubles she wanted to share what she had learned with other people suffering as she had. She created a nutrition course and marketed it with every tactic in the book. It failed hard. Then she realized she needed to talk with her customers to know how to actually connect with them.
Joy developed her Conscious Copy Converts process based on interviews that revealed the motivating factors and precise language customers use during the full cycle of engagement with a brand. Her results not only get higher sales but a richer experience that elevates the lifetime value of customers by nurturing relationships that feel mutually beneficial rather than overtly promotional.
Time to take your writing skills up another level as Joy Houston gives Matt and Joe her whole process to create powerful copywriting from scratch, what 4 personality types your copy needs to speak to, and how she charts the entire customer journey. When you’re done, check out our conversation with Joy’s husband Travis for more content strategies and get more copy advice from Kevin Rogers.
“When I write every piece of copy I don't think about thousands of people… I think about having a conversation with one person.” -Joy Houston
At the age of 24, Jonathan Levi had just sold is first company and was on a search to make a positive impact in the world. He made a short course on what he’d learned to accelerate his learning before setting off on his travels. That side-hustle was bringing in $10,000/month while he soul searched... Until a friend asked him, “Why aren’t you making more courses?”
Now Jonathan is one of the top-performing instructors on the web with over 160,000 students and counting. Most recently, he launched The SuperLearner Academy, a private, online academy where he teaches premium-level masterclasses in accelerated learning and productivity, and Branding You Academy, which teaches entrepreneurs how to create 7-figure multimedia internet empires just like his.
Time to step into your memory palace as Jonathan Levi shows the guys how to create courses that are addicting as salted peanuts, the secret to speed reading, and how to become an 8-Ton-Gorilla. When you’re done, learn more about marketing courses with Ankur Nagpal and Joel Erway.
“Creating a really engaging online course is just having it be like salted peanuts where people can’t stop because it’s so enveloping.” -Jonathan Levi
At the age of 40, Lee Goff had a massive heart attack that nearly killed him at far too young an age. He had an eight-year-old daughter and a thriving agency that was stressing him to death. He sold his agency and started a new one that he promised himself would be too simple to ever put him in the hospital again.
Lee has gone on to pursue his life long passion of mentoring small businesses with a focus on doing one thing, and that is to make agency owners lives easier. He is committed to providing real-world tools, classes, and coaching that can make a real difference in the performance of an agency and help small businesses grow faster and more profitable than they could have ever imagined.
If you’re feeling like you have twelve bosses instead of one, this episode is for you. Listen in as Matt and Joe get a masterclass in simplifying your business from Lee Goff, who shares his essential automation processes, the human psychology that dictates every sale, and 10-steps to finding your most profitable niche. Looking to simplify even more? Check out our conversations with Gonzalo Paternoster and Michael Woodward.
“If people are giving you money they’ve earned the right to talk to you. Don’t try and live behind a digital wall and build a business.” -Lee Goff
When he was just 16, Cory Boatright dropped out of school to sell Kirby home cleaning systems. He was the youngest and most successful sales guy at the company but it was only the first step in a journey through Christian heavy-metal, Ginsu knives, Ebay, and about 40 other companies until he struck real estate.
Now Cory runs several multi-million dollar companies centered around real estate investing. Between himself, his teams, and his students all over the world, he has sold over 75 million in real estate acquisitions and completed over 1000 real property transactions. Today he coaches high achieving entrepreneurs and their teams to get the same phenomenal results in their businesses.
Join the guys for a wild ride through Cory’s journey to success and the latest insider real estate strategies like how to buy properties worth millions without putting in a penny, getting giant paydays with short-selling, and how to get double-digit returns with your IRA. When you’re done, round out this episode with more real estate and investing advice from Dana Robinson and Danielle Town.
“When I got involved in real estate I didn’t know anything about it. I just knew I wanted to be involved with it because of my clients... I would ask them, ‘What made you successful?’ These were affluent people and what do you think they said? Real estate.” -Cory Boatright
After moving to Austin on a whim, Molly Pittman took an unpaid internship at Digital Marketer. Out of a dozen interns, she knew just a couple would get hired. She gave it her all to be one of them. A year later, she was VP of Marketing.
Now Molly is a digital marketing expert and educator. She is the co-host of Perpetual Traffic, one of the most highly regarded marketing podcasts around. She also coaches and consults with businesses to provide unique digital marketing plans tailored to their goals and setting strategy for some of the world’s fastest-growing companies.
Get your notebook ready as Molly lets Matt and Jow in on all the recent changes to Facebook Ads, what ad content is working on Instagram, and how she designs campaigns that bring in 4,000 leads a day. Still in the zone for more Facebook Ad strategies? Then check out our conversations with Ralph Burns and Curt Maly.
“There are different purposes for different campaigns and the most important thing is you know what that one success metric is so you can say, ‘This is good,’ or, ‘This is bad.’” -Molly Pittman
Sometimes it takes two to launch a business, like brothers Dan & Joe Kalis learned when neither could get off the ground on their own. Joe was too methodical to jumpstart and Dan too erratic to stay in the air. Together though, they’ve made businesses that soar and sell!
Dan and Joe started out funding real estate projects and when it came time to sell they learned how to get a deal from every part of their business. They soon learned that salability is an all too common struggle for business owners. Now, with Biz Owner Freedom they are focused on helping established entrepreneurs dramatically and predictably increase the value and salability of their companies.
Be aware of the exits as the guys get a masterclass in salability from Dan and Joe Kalis and learn the 2 factors that determine a business's value, the indispensable method to stay salable, and how to sell from a position of power. When you’re done get some more advice about selling and acquiring businesses from our conversations with Carl Allen and Roland Frasier.
“The value of your business is one of the best representatives of your quality of life because if you have an unsellable business your life is going to be a drag.” -Dan Kalis
Four years ago, Los Silva reluctantly let his business partner take over their marketing agency. He tried doing speaking events, some consulting, but it all felt boring until an influencer asked him to help with their social media brand. Within a month, he hit six figures and was finally building a team he was excited to work with.
Los is a master team builder. He knows how to hire the right people (not “experts”), train them to excel, and build a workplace that everyone can’t wait to get to in the morning. With his business, he has brought over 5 social media brands way past the 7 figure mark using his own processes to leverage content, influencers, and culture.
This episode is like a twofer as Los Silva shares with Matt and Joe both how to build an awesome team and crush it on social media using his processes to train “blank slate” employees, leveraging social content and an influencer’s audience. When you’re done, get some more advice about hiring from Tim Francis and content production with Travis Houston.
“I can’t grow without people, that’s always been my logic… I’ve done every job here and everyone here is way better than me now, by far.” -Los Silva
On his first day at Infusionsoft, Kelsey Bratcher knew this was going to be the last job he ever had. He loved his job, but working all day with entrepreneurs who were raking in millions showed him he could do it too.
Now Kelsey is the co-founder of Automatic Practice Profits, host of the Get Automated Podcast, and a freelance automation consultant for numerous clients and businesses. He has saved his own businesses over 8,000,000 minutes using his automation strategies and much more for the people he helps get their work done without breaking their budgets.
Just click and kickback as the guys get a masterclass in how to automate your business from cold calls to upsells, using new tools for effective direct mail marketing, and how to build automation mechanisms that drop into any marketplace. When you’re done listening, go get some more automation tips from our conversations with Alan McKenna and Drew Burks.
“In online space, there’s a lot of laziness, there’s a lot of cheapness. People are like, ‘I want to spend as little as possible.’ Well, if you spend more you could make more!” -Kelsey Bratcher
When the financial crisis hit in 2008, Michael Woodward was in a bind. His work as a minister could no longer pay the bills, so he joined a friend in a new web venture to make ends meet. He was an entrepreneur out of necessity, but it tapped into something at his very core.
Michael still loves pastoring, but now he mostly does it with fellow entrepreneurs. He founded jumbleThink to continue his passion by helping people and businesses use their innate creativity, ideas, and sound strategies to attain their dreams. He is an expert at breaking old, calcified thought patterns and using sustainable experiments to craft a better future for you and your business.
Listen in as the guys get some actionable methods to start finding your best ideas, gaining the perspective to turn a big fail into a mega win, and using micro-experiment to improve both your life and business. If you’d like to hear more about jump-starting your path to your dreams, check out our conversations with Brad Spencer and Ori Bengal.
“Simple is usually what the customer wants and if you can solve their problem then you’re going to have market share… the problem is most people solving it are over complicating it for the customer. Just make it easy for me!” -Michael Woodward
We welcome back Brad Costanzo for another round of our mash-upped podcasts. This time we’re geeking out about real tactics to change your mindset and let yourself imagine actionable ideas. Then we dive into Brad’s processes on how to pick the ideas that will take your business to the next level.
Brad is a good friend and business partner here at The Hustle & Flowchart. He’s been branded as an “idea guy,” which means he knows how to spot, create, and capitalize on multiple business opportunities at once. He has been consulting for companies, and even experts, to scale and grow their businesses for years while helping entrepreneurs do the same thing with his podcast Bacon Wrapped Business.
When you’re done listening, don’t forget there’s two more bacon wrapped episodes to nom on. And then go get some more mindset advice from Christy Whitman.
“I don’t think thinking outside the box is the answer, that’s a faulty way to go about coming up with ideas. I think you need to get a new box.” -Brad Costanzo
There’s never enough time to get all the knowledge Roland Frasier has bubbling off his brainpan, so we had to bring him on for another round for advice about acquiring companies to effectively scale your business no matter what stage you’re at. Don’t worry, a round 3 is already in the works!
For those not in the know, Roland is a world-famous dealmaker who started in real-estate when he was 18 and now advises over 150 major companies on how to monetize and grow their businesses. He is also passionate about entrepreneurs and gives them the tools and knowledge they need through DigitalMarketer.com and The Traffic & Conversion Summit, which we attend religiously every year.
We are still trying to digest the wealth of actionable advice Roland dropped on us in this hour, like how to plan a multi-exit strategy for that big payday, selling one company to scale all your other companies, and buying a huge, targeted audience for practically nothing. After you’re done, you’ll definitely want to check out our previous episode with Roland Frasier, then follow up with Carl Allen.
“I don’t think there’s a faster way to get into a business... or to grow your business than to buy one that already has what you want.” -Roland Frasier
For years, Danielle Town was practically stuffing the money she made as a start-up attorney under her mattress, even though her father is a famous investor. When the stress of her job was making her severely ill, her dad told her it was time to take that cash and make it work for her.
Now Danielle has discovered the secret to transforming financial fear into financial freedom. She is a New York Times bestselling author and avid personal investor, guiding countless people to overcome their reluctance in investing and put their money where their values are through her newsletter, courses, podcast, and books.
Time to take a peek at your savings account as Danielle shows Matt and Joe how to get over their fears of investing money, the best tool out there to invest on your own, and 4 principles to pick the right stocks. When you’re done, get some more financial advice from our conversations with Phil Town and Jason Rotman.
“Okay, this investment practice is not just about money, it’s about me and my life and being connected to my family and supporting my family...” -Danielle Town
In 2006, as Dave Woodward sat in an event hosted by Russell Brunson, it was slowly dawning on him that internet marketing would soon be the only game in town. So when Russell announced there was a signup sheet for anyone willing to buy him lunch, Dave ran to the table and put his name in every spot.
Now Dave is Chief Revenue and Business Development Officer of ClickFunnels, the leading software service providing entrepreneurs around the world the ability to design, build, and analyze any type of sales funnel they can dream of. Oh, he also happens to host the wildly popular Funnel Hackers Radio Podcast too, where he shares marketing secrets with the famously engaged ClickFunnels community he helped build.
Get ready as the guys hear all about the latest strategies Dave Woodward uses to provide value and build community with 30-day challenges, a new peer-to-peer customer service system, and using pretzels to get his dream guest on his podcast. When you’re done, get some more funnel tactics from our talks with Josh Haynam and Bastian Ernst.
2018 has been one hell of a year for us and we’re super excited to share what we’ll be bringing you next year, plus predictions for what 2019 has in store for your business.
We’ve loved making our business more accessible to our listeners over the past year and we’re doubling down in 2019. We have a new course in the works, mobile apps, marketing software, a live event, and much more. As always, we’re letting you in on all the strategies we’re using to leverage our content and get out from under the doom and gloom that’s descending on the old ways of doing business.
On this episode, we also go into what we think is going to be the new best practices in 2019, how to get your highest revenue with small, focused audiences, and the counter-intuitive industry shift in what makes a company valuable. Still want to know more about what makes The Hustle & Flowchart tick? Get in our heads with our recent Therapy Session, listen to our 100th Episode, or learn about our Journey To Seven-Figures.
“What most people go and do is target this broad audience where they think their ideal customer lives… but there’s a S#@% ton of your not-ideal customer in there!” -Matt Wolfe
“Step back before you make a campaign… actually think about giving value and understanding what people are interested in.” -Joe Fier
As a self-proclaimed podcast fanatic, Trevr Smithlin always wanted to find a way to help out the industry. First, he made an app that added visuals to podcast episodes, but for some reason, it didn’t sell. Then he thought, why not try something he was already good at?
Trevr founded AndertiseCast to streamline the clunky process of advertising in the podcast industry. His business has finally made it simple to manage campaigns, sponsor shows, and target audiences so that advertisers get results and podcasters get the revenue they need to focus on what they love.
On this episode, Matt and Joe get all the facts out of Trevr about how to build your podcast to land sponsors, picking the right podcast for your advertisement, and how to leverage episodes to increase revenues. After you’re done listening, go check out our talks with Nick Loper and Justin Malik & Lee Rankinen for more tips to make a successful podcast.
“You gotta take this thing super seriously if you want this to be your business… and there are new mechanisms to get to that level.” -Trevr Smithlin
Sure, we get our guests to open up about the struggles they faced while building their businesses all the time. But it’s not so often you get to hear about our own struggles as we’ve brought you The Hustle & Flowchart week after week. We’ve been getting a lot of feedback we should share more about what goes on when the mic is off and we’re feeling ready to deliver.
On this episode, we dive deep into the things we’ve kind of been scared to get vulnerable about with all of you this past couple of years. We not only go into the struggles we have “behind the scenes,” we also expose the anxieties and thoughts we may not be proud of, but hey, it’s us. Plus we’ve learned a lot this year about what we really want out of life and our business and we’re excited to share our methods for personal growth with you too.
We hope this episode gets you considering what business goals actually get you the life you want, the value of your health, family, and wellbeing, and where you really want to be aiming your mental energy. When you’re done listening, go check out that time Joe shared about his ayahuasca ceremony and our talk with Dan Kuschell that pushed our insight to the next level.
“We’re not a freakin’ push button podcast.” -Joe Fier
“Shut off the idea others are judging you and your happiness quotient skyrockets.” -Matt Wolfe
After years in broadcasting, Sunny Lenarduzzi was starting to feel like her head and her heart were getting mismatched. Tired of working for other people’s agendas, she decided to say, “Screw it! I’m going to start my own business.”
Now Sunny is an expert at creating thriving brand strategies using video marketing. She helps both corporation and thousands of entrepreneurs create impact and scale their business using online video. Forbes Magazine named her one of the 20 must watch YouTube channels that will change your business.
Pretend like the camera is rolling as Matt and Joe learn Sunny Lenarduzzi’s methods for creating a month worth of content in just two hours, getting comfortable in front of the camera, and discovering your personal brand style. When you’re done, go check out our talks with Tom Breeze and Marshall Wayne to get more YouTube and brand building strategies.
“We live in such a weird time right now... there’s such value on being a real human being and being yourself and transparent.” - Sunny Lenarduzzi
In 2012, when Brian Dean founded Backlinko, SEO was a vague science. There was very little real advice out there, which is why he decided to share the strategies he had developed learning the hard way.
Just a few months in business and Brian knew he was onto something. Now marketers from Apple, Disney, IBM, and more are loyal readers of his weekly newsletter. And his blog is one of the first places people turn to when they need practical, actionable advice for their online business.
Get ready as Matt and Joe get the latest advice from Brian Dean about how to optimize your videos on YouTube, make super shareable blog posts, and what is going to change for SEO in 2019. When you’re done listening, go check out our talks with David Sinick for more SEO strategies and Brian G. Johnson to jumpstart your YouTube channel.
“There probably are a couple things that are unique to you… so double down on what works and cut out what doesn’t.”- Brian Dean
When mental healthcare for veterans started being gutted, Andrew O'Brien was one of the first to lose his paycheck. He had loved speaking at army bases all over the world, but he also knew he didn’t want to work for anyone else ever again.
Andrew used what he had learned when his personal story made international headlines to create his own PR firm to help businesses and entrepreneurs get in the limelight. He has gotten his clients into every kind of media outlet from local television to Forbes Magazine. And now he’s sharing his methods and training thousands in how to stand out in the crowded media stream.
Listen up as Andrew O'Brien tells the guys what you need to do to get noticed, the five steps to effectively cold call media outlets, and what you should practice before going on camera. If you’re still in the zone, go check out our talks with David Schloss and Steve Gordon to get more advice about building your network and getting noticed.
“A big thing I tell everybody is if you want to stand out be honest, so I’m going to be honest…” - Andrew O'Brien
At 37 years old, Carl Allen was holding his firstborn son in his hands when he told his wife, “That’s it, I’m retiring!” He quit his job in corporate acquisitions, but retirement only lasted a few weeks. That dealmakers itch needed to get scratched, but was there way to buy companies all by himself?
Now Carl is an entrepreneur, investor, and corporate dealmaker who has worked on transactions worth over $50 billion. He is one of the world’s premier experts on buying and financing small business acquisitions and coaches entrepreneurs all over the world to buy small businesses rather than starting new ones.
Put your personal assets aside as Matt and Joe get their financial mindset torn down and reimagined by Carl Allen, who lets them in on how to buy businesses with other people’s money, find sellers with the right mindset, and 3 ways to make a leveraged buyout and grow your new business. If you want to know more about buying, growing, and selling businesses check out our talks with Brad Costanzo and Paul Lemberg.
“All the reasons why startups fail: you got no employees, no cash flow, no reputation… Go and buy an existing business, it’s got all that stuff!”- Carl Allen
Back in 2010, Mike Rhodes was at a conference in Maui. For the past six years, he had been experimenting, testing, and studying to find out what made Google Ads tick. When he stood up and presented his strategies, everyone knew this was the guy to follow. And his little agency in Melbourne was about to explode.
Perry Marshall tapped Mike to co-author the Ultimate Guide to Google AdWords, now in its 5th edition, which placed him as the leading expert on Google advertising. Now his agency is what he always wanted it to be: the only place to go when you need to most up to date training possible about the world’s largest ad platform.
Keep your notebook handy as Matt and Joe get barraged with the seemingly infinite strategies Mike Rhodes has developed, like how to get your remarketing on the competition’s sites, what to do in your brand’s first 3 months on Google Ads, and what Google has in store next year. When you’re done, listen to our talks with Tom Breeze and Ralph Burns to get more ad strategies for your business.
“Know your #@%$ numbers. Know why you’re trying to hit the number you’re trying to hit.” - Mike Rhodes
Twelve years ago Dan Kuschell was in the hospital, suffering a sudden health crisis. That’s when he encountered the 3 questions that made him restructure both his business and his life.
Sure, hundreds of employees sound great, but is it what you really want? Dan realized there is a simpler way to maintain success and now, after founding eleven companies of his own, that’s what he does for his clients. He helps businesses connect the dots, see their blind-spots, and get unstuck by implementing unique sales & marketing systems.
Learn some of Dan Kuschell’s many strategies to both simplify and grow your business as he lets Matt and Joe in on the 3 questions he always asks himself, the 8 values that he and his business live by, and how to choose which opportunities to follow. When you’re done listening, get some more marketing strategies from Billy Gene Shaw and Curt Maly.
“When you get clear on your values then what’s most important is not what you do… it’s what you say no to.”- Dan Kuschell
He used to be a creative kid, even headlined the local heavy-metal club when he was older, but somehow Steve Glaveski ended up in corporate banking, staring at the vacant office spaces in the corner. That’s when the business idea that would get him work and lifestyle freedom finally hit.
Steve founded Hotdesk, one of the first office sharing companies in Australia, which brought in the revenue he needed to transition from corporate life to spending his time pursuing what he loves. Now he’s teaching people how to make entrepreneurship part of their lives too, not only adults but also kids young as 8. Kids who are already raking in thousands a month from websites started in his classes.
Listen in as Steve Glaveski tells the guys how to get your mind and business in shape to jump out of your day job, the right tests to find out if you have a viable business, and how a cold shower maximizes your productivity. When you’re done, get more advice about how to free yourself from the rat race with Corona Brady and David Allen.
“A lot of the time we hold ourselves back... because we’re scared of how it might make us feel if we fail, but if you’re cool with that it just opens you up to so much more.”- Steve Glaveski
When his real estate business tanked in 2007, Travis Houston had to move back to his mom’s house in dreary Oregon. Then he spent six months readying to launch his first online product, which ended up a total failure. But he also learned exactly what content he needed to make his next launch a success.
Travis has refined his methods over the years and distilled them into simple, actionable steps to make content that sends products soaring. He has helped launch many profitable health and nutrition businesses and put three of his clients’ books on the New York Times Bestseller List.
Listen in as Travis Houston lets Matt and Joe in on his foolproof formulas to make your launch A.W.E.S.O.M.E., the best metrics to analyze your data, and the new tools he uses to get ahead of the competition. When you’re done, check out our interviews with Curt Maly and Chris Mercer to learn about more tools and strategies that will simplify your business.
“It’s not only about math… We are entrepreneurs because we have really good business intuition. If I combine the math with my business intuition, that’s when the magic happens.”- Travis Houston
After building one of the biggest renovation businesses in Canada, Moe Abbas was still in his twenties and wondering what to do next. He had always thought traditional education was, at best, a dubious deal. Plus, his favorite part about his job had been training interns into full-time employees.
Two years ago Moe co-founded GenM, which is already changing both the way students find jobs and businesses get the talent they need. Not only offering a new, affordable path to gaining expertise but a business that is reviving the old concept of apprenticeship for the digital age.
Listen in as Moe Abbas shares with the guys how invaluable apprentices can be for small businesses, why you always speak directly to every client, and the fast-approaching future of education. When you’re done, check out our talks with Mike Matuz and Roland Frasier to find more opportunities for your business.
"We started on this mission to build a free education system that’s accessible to anyone and leads to jobs, that was the birth of GenM.” - Moe Abbas