Right out of high school Stephen Esketzis created his first app to get people into night clubs. He worked with a friend to sell his app and got hooked on designing the perfect funnel to bring in customers. That’s when he stopped developing and went full throttle into marketing.
Now Stephen is a leading sales funnel expert who specializes in content marketing using purely SEO strategies. He used to be the head of content marketing at Clickfunnels before building multiple media brands of his own. And he is sharing his knowledge with thousands of entrepreneurs through his website, podcast, and the events he organizes in his home city of Melbourne.
Get ready to update your system as Stephen shows Matt and Joe how to create epic content, start a media brand from scratch, and planning the exact right time to make your exit. When you’re done, go get even more content strategies from our conversations with Brian Dean and David Sinick.
“I wanted to build an asset rather than just a funnel because a funnel should be a part of the brand, it shouldn't just be a standalone thing.” -Stephen Esketzis
We’re totally loving these therapy sessions with you, it’s almost like outsourcing a visit to an actual therapist. Seriously, it’s getting addicting and we might have to start doing more.
In this episode, we tell you exactly why a network is the safety net that can never be taken from you. And we share exactly how we’re using our network to outsource the scaling of our business through strategic partnerships.
Still want more behind the scenes action? Go check out our previous therapy sessions Analyzing What Makes Us Tick and Getting Real On What We Struggle With to go even further inside our heads and business.
“Our safety net is our network… if you took everything away that we currently have, we still have our network to get back on our feet.” -Matt Wolfe
“When it comes to us it’s more just making sure the vision us going the way it should be, looking for opportunities, being strategic, and creating content like crazy.” -Joe Fier
At his first marketing job, Liam Austin saw that online businesses were the future. But how to start one himself? On a whim, he started a group on LinkedIn for entrepreneurs. When he checked in months later there were over 100,000 members begging him to do something. So he did.
Liam has launched and hosted 14 virtual summits and interviewed over 400 experts. He is the co-founder of Entrepreneurs HQ, which delivers one marketing tactic from a proven entrepreneur to your inbox daily. His mission is to make it easy for anyone to learn and utilize the strategies of proven entrepreneurs for their business.
Promoting a summit is barely more work than a webinar, so why not go big? Join Matt and Joe as Liam shows them exactly why virtual summits generate audiences that webinars can only dream of and his simple, foolproof system to launch a summit in just 90 days. When you’re done, turn this episode into a webinar masterclass and follow up with Casey Zeman and Joel Erway.
“The biggest benefit of a summit is not the money… the reason you're doing a summit is to build up your network, your email list, and an audience to ultimately take them down a path with you.” -Liam Austin
The entrepreneur bug bit Nate Broughton while he was just a freshman in college. In his off time, he helped build an 8 figure online business when search engines were still in their infancy. The first thing he did after graduating? Start building a 9 figure company of his own.
Nate has been in the SEO game for 17 years and counting. He specializes in lead generation using organic strategies he’s perfected after having built and sold numerous companies across multiple markets. And now he shares his knowledge with other entrepreneurs as co-host of Opt Out Life.
Get ready to update your online content as the guys learn what effective SEO looks like today, the tactics that are no longer working, and the latest checklist for onpage optimization. When you’re done, check our conversations with Brian Dean and Christopher Gimmer for more organic traffic strategies.
“You can write pretty bland when you write for Google. Worry about finding a voice later when you have a bunch of traffic!” -Nate Broughton
After losing his first fortune, Marx Acosta-Rubio was sharing a bottle of wine with his wife when he asked her, What did she really want out of life? They talked for hours about what truly mattered to them. That’s when he decided to make sure his next fortune was for his family to get everything they really wanted.
Marx dropped out of law school to become an entrepreneur and started one of the fastest growing companies in the United States. He’s gone from rags to riches to rags to riches again and learned along the way what real success looks like. Now he shares his wisdom with other entrepreneurs so they don’t fall into the traps and paralysis that keeps them from the life they actually want to be living.
Buckle up, because this is a double length deep dive into the mindsets that lead to real, life-altering success as Marx Acosta-Rubio shares why only a few people ever put knowledge into practice, the 3 questions to pick the right books to read, and his foolproof process to set the right goals for your success. Still want more? Go check out our previous conversation with Marx and get more tricks to rewire your brain with Dr. Steve Ruden.
“If we're not moving we're not growing… The difference isn't whether you feel like it or not, it's are you able to do it despite not feeling like doing it?” -Marx Acosta-Rubio
We’re big fans of Snappa, so it’s pretty exciting to have Christopher Gimmer on the show today. We use Snappa for all the graphics on our website, social media, our logos, etc... But we really, really wanted Christopher on the show when we found out all the marketing he uses to build such a successful business is 100% certified organic SEO.
Christopher has been pursuing his passion for entrepreneurship for over five years. He launched and grew a variety of online businesses until he became the co-founder and CEO of Snappa – the software that helps non-designers create online graphics in a snap.
Settle in as Matt and Joe learn Christopher’s system to market with only free, organic strategies, what it takes to design great software, and how to connect with your customers in order to improve every aspect of your business. When you’re done, learn more about creating and marketing new products from our conversations with David Sinick and Ben Adkins.
“Patience is honestly the biggest thing because with software you never know… this huge bug that’s going to take a week to fix, it’s just hard to predict that kind of stuff.” -Christopher Gimmer
After his efforts to sell climbing wall rocks in the mail failed, Craig Simpson doubled down and experimented to find exactly what offer and copywriting would make sales. Thousands of mailed rocks later he sold the business and started showing other businesses how to get the same success with direct mail.
Now Craig does over 300 direct mail campaigns every year. He has sent out 200,000,000 letters across the nation, targeting everyone from corporate CEOs to people with toothaches. He is also a bestselling author, powerfully distilling the knowledge of great advertisers to show his readers how to write copy that engages customers.
Take your junk mail out of the recycling bin as Craig Simpson explains to the guys exactly what makes great letter copy, how to actually get results with postcards, and what your first mailing should look like. When you’re done, go check out our conversations with Kelsey Bratcher and Joy Houston for more direct mail and copy strategies.
“You don't get a hundred pieces of mail in your mailbox every day like you do with email... if you're the only guy in there you're going to get more attention.” -Craig Simpson
Shortly after getting married, Rinesh Ganatra realized he didn’t want to still be a dentist when he was 60. He wanted to be free of his workday and he set a goal for himself to sell his whole practice by the age of 40. He told everyone he would die before he stopped trying to follow his entrepreneurial dream.
Rinesh has used his success teaching dentists the world over how to build their businesses as a gateway to launch himself into his true passion, sharing the skills and mindsets people need to reach their goals and live their dreams. Now he’s showing thousands how to impact the world from the comfort of anywhere.
Get refocused on your biggest life goals as Rinesh gives Matt and Joe endless insights about how to structure your life around your dreams, why silence is when your core beliefs come to the surface, and the 5 mindsets to create an unstoppable pull toward success. When you’re done, get more advice about achieving the life you want with Rob Nunnery and James Schramko.
“Look, your dreams are not sold at the convenience store… Don't think that because you know what you want that the world is going to give you a plate of convenience and perfect timing.” -Rinesh Ganatra
After the recession, Scott Carson sold everything he owned except his truck and his dog. He set off on a 27-week road trip to figure out what to do next. As he drove, he got invitations to speak about the marketing he had been doing on Facebook. So kept driving and speaking and that road trip lasted over 3 years.
Now Scott (aka “the Note Guy) has helped thousands of other real estate investors come to the sexy side of investing by plunging into the world of non-performing notes and looking to “rehab the borrower”. He is also a highly sought after speaker on distressed debt and has been featured in Investor’s Business Daily and The Wall Street Journal.
Listen in as Scott shares with guys his systems to make tons of content from a single video, automated email campaigns that run for years, and the best ways to invest in real estate. When you’re done, go check out our conversation with Cory Boatright for more about real estate investing and more PR advice from Andrew O’Brien.
“We do something big four or five times a month… They don't always work. But the only thing you can guarantee by not doing it is failure, right?” -Scott Carson
We got a lot of great feedback about our last therapy session, so here is a new installment where we analyze what makes us our brains tick and how we rein in our minds when they start going a little haywire.
In this episode, we dive deep into strategies we use to go straight into the flow when we start recording, how to sidestep mental blocks that slow us down, and our personal strategies to overcome hang-ups that used to rule our lives. We also reflect on our latest personality assessment and look back at how much has changed for the better since we became entrepreneurs.
We hope this episode gets you analyzing how you overcome your own struggles and what strategies you use to release pressure and appreciate life. When you’re done, go listen to our previous therapy session and then check out Corona Brady for great advice about managing stress.
“My therapy quite honestly (this is going to sound cheesy) is this podcast… because I tend to be someone who bottles up stuff.” -Matt Wolfe
“Just think about how much easier life can be if you actually understand the other person you’re talking to… Just be love, have fun, be cool, and enjoy the time we’re on this planet together.” -Joe Fier
After changing her diet fixed Joy Houston’s fertility troubles she wanted to share what she had learned with other people suffering as she had. She created a nutrition course and marketed it with every tactic in the book. It failed hard. Then she realized she needed to talk with her customers to know how to actually connect with them.
Joy developed her Conscious Copy Converts process based on interviews that revealed the motivating factors and precise language customers use during the full cycle of engagement with a brand. Her results not only get higher sales but a richer experience that elevates the lifetime value of customers by nurturing relationships that feel mutually beneficial rather than overtly promotional.
Time to take your writing skills up another level as Joy Houston gives Matt and Joe her whole process to create powerful copywriting from scratch, what 4 personality types your copy needs to speak to, and how she charts the entire customer journey. When you’re done, check out our conversation with Joy’s husband Travis for more content strategies and get more copy advice from Kevin Rogers.
“When I write every piece of copy I don't think about thousands of people… I think about having a conversation with one person.” -Joy Houston
At the age of 24, Jonathan Levi had just sold is first company and was on a search to make a positive impact in the world. He made a short course on what he’d learned to accelerate his learning before setting off on his travels. That side-hustle was bringing in $10,000/month while he soul searched... Until a friend asked him, “Why aren’t you making more courses?”
Now Jonathan is one of the top-performing instructors on the web with over 160,000 students and counting. Most recently, he launched The SuperLearner Academy, a private, online academy where he teaches premium-level masterclasses in accelerated learning and productivity, and Branding You Academy, which teaches entrepreneurs how to create 7-figure multimedia internet empires just like his.
Time to step into your memory palace as Jonathan Levi shows the guys how to create courses that are addicting as salted peanuts, the secret to speed reading, and how to become an 8-Ton-Gorilla. When you’re done, learn more about marketing courses with Ankur Nagpal and Joel Erway.
“Creating a really engaging online course is just having it be like salted peanuts where people can’t stop because it’s so enveloping.” -Jonathan Levi
At the age of 40, Lee Goff had a massive heart attack that nearly killed him at far too young an age. He had an eight-year-old daughter and a thriving agency that was stressing him to death. He sold his agency and started a new one that he promised himself would be too simple to ever put him in the hospital again.
Lee has gone on to pursue his life long passion of mentoring small businesses with a focus on doing one thing, and that is to make agency owners lives easier. He is committed to providing real-world tools, classes, and coaching that can make a real difference in the performance of an agency and help small businesses grow faster and more profitable than they could have ever imagined.
If you’re feeling like you have twelve bosses instead of one, this episode is for you. Listen in as Matt and Joe get a masterclass in simplifying your business from Lee Goff, who shares his essential automation processes, the human psychology that dictates every sale, and 10-steps to finding your most profitable niche. Looking to simplify even more? Check out our conversations with Gonzalo Paternoster and Michael Woodward.
“If people are giving you money they’ve earned the right to talk to you. Don’t try and live behind a digital wall and build a business.” -Lee Goff
When he was just 16, Cory Boatright dropped out of school to sell Kirby home cleaning systems. He was the youngest and most successful sales guy at the company but it was only the first step in a journey through Christian heavy-metal, Ginsu knives, Ebay, and about 40 other companies until he struck real estate.
Now Cory runs several multi-million dollar companies centered around real estate investing. Between himself, his teams, and his students all over the world, he has sold over 75 million in real estate acquisitions and completed over 1000 real property transactions. Today he coaches high achieving entrepreneurs and their teams to get the same phenomenal results in their businesses.
Join the guys for a wild ride through Cory’s journey to success and the latest insider real estate strategies like how to buy properties worth millions without putting in a penny, getting giant paydays with short-selling, and how to get double-digit returns with your IRA. When you’re done, round out this episode with more real estate and investing advice from Dana Robinson and Danielle Town.
“When I got involved in real estate I didn’t know anything about it. I just knew I wanted to be involved with it because of my clients... I would ask them, ‘What made you successful?’ These were affluent people and what do you think they said? Real estate.” -Cory Boatright
After moving to Austin on a whim, Molly Pittman took an unpaid internship at Digital Marketer. Out of a dozen interns, she knew just a couple would get hired. She gave it her all to be one of them. A year later, she was VP of Marketing.
Now Molly is a digital marketing expert and educator. She is the co-host of Perpetual Traffic, one of the most highly regarded marketing podcasts around. She also coaches and consults with businesses to provide unique digital marketing plans tailored to their goals and setting strategy for some of the world’s fastest-growing companies.
Get your notebook ready as Molly lets Matt and Jow in on all the recent changes to Facebook Ads, what ad content is working on Instagram, and how she designs campaigns that bring in 4,000 leads a day. Still in the zone for more Facebook Ad strategies? Then check out our conversations with Ralph Burns and Curt Maly.
“There are different purposes for different campaigns and the most important thing is you know what that one success metric is so you can say, ‘This is good,’ or, ‘This is bad.’” -Molly Pittman
Sometimes it takes two to launch a business, like brothers Dan & Joe Kalis learned when neither could get off the ground on their own. Joe was too methodical to jumpstart and Dan too erratic to stay in the air. Together though, they’ve made businesses that soar and sell!
Dan and Joe started out funding real estate projects and when it came time to sell they learned how to get a deal from every part of their business. They soon learned that salability is an all too common struggle for business owners. Now, with Biz Owner Freedom they are focused on helping established entrepreneurs dramatically and predictably increase the value and salability of their companies.
Be aware of the exits as the guys get a masterclass in salability from Dan and Joe Kalis and learn the 2 factors that determine a business's value, the indispensable method to stay salable, and how to sell from a position of power. When you’re done get some more advice about selling and acquiring businesses from our conversations with Carl Allen and Roland Frasier.
“The value of your business is one of the best representatives of your quality of life because if you have an unsellable business your life is going to be a drag.” -Dan Kalis
Four years ago, Los Silva reluctantly let his business partner take over their marketing agency. He tried doing speaking events, some consulting, but it all felt boring until an influencer asked him to help with their social media brand. Within a month, he hit six figures and was finally building a team he was excited to work with.
Los is a master team builder. He knows how to hire the right people (not “experts”), train them to excel, and build a workplace that everyone can’t wait to get to in the morning. With his business, he has brought over 5 social media brands way past the 7 figure mark using his own processes to leverage content, influencers, and culture.
This episode is like a twofer as Los Silva shares with Matt and Joe both how to build an awesome team and crush it on social media using his processes to train “blank slate” employees, leveraging social content and an influencer’s audience. When you’re done, get some more advice about hiring from Tim Francis and content production with Travis Houston.
“I can’t grow without people, that’s always been my logic… I’ve done every job here and everyone here is way better than me now, by far.” -Los Silva
On his first day at Infusionsoft, Kelsey Bratcher knew this was going to be the last job he ever had. He loved his job, but working all day with entrepreneurs who were raking in millions showed him he could do it too.
Now Kelsey is the co-founder of Automatic Practice Profits, host of the Get Automated Podcast, and a freelance automation consultant for numerous clients and businesses. He has saved his own businesses over 8,000,000 minutes using his automation strategies and much more for the people he helps get their work done without breaking their budgets.
Just click and kickback as the guys get a masterclass in how to automate your business from cold calls to upsells, using new tools for effective direct mail marketing, and how to build automation mechanisms that drop into any marketplace. When you’re done listening, go get some more automation tips from our conversations with Alan McKenna and Drew Burks.
“In online space, there’s a lot of laziness, there’s a lot of cheapness. People are like, ‘I want to spend as little as possible.’ Well, if you spend more you could make more!” -Kelsey Bratcher
When the financial crisis hit in 2008, Michael Woodward was in a bind. His work as a minister could no longer pay the bills, so he joined a friend in a new web venture to make ends meet. He was an entrepreneur out of necessity, but it tapped into something at his very core.
Michael still loves pastoring, but now he mostly does it with fellow entrepreneurs. He founded jumbleThink to continue his passion by helping people and businesses use their innate creativity, ideas, and sound strategies to attain their dreams. He is an expert at breaking old, calcified thought patterns and using sustainable experiments to craft a better future for you and your business.
Listen in as the guys get some actionable methods to start finding your best ideas, gaining the perspective to turn a big fail into a mega win, and using micro-experiment to improve both your life and business. If you’d like to hear more about jump-starting your path to your dreams, check out our conversations with Brad Spencer and Ori Bengal.
“Simple is usually what the customer wants and if you can solve their problem then you’re going to have market share… the problem is most people solving it are over complicating it for the customer. Just make it easy for me!” -Michael Woodward
We welcome back Brad Costanzo for another round of our mash-upped podcasts. This time we’re geeking out about real tactics to change your mindset and let yourself imagine actionable ideas. Then we dive into Brad’s processes on how to pick the ideas that will take your business to the next level.
Brad is a good friend and business partner here at The Hustle & Flowchart. He’s been branded as an “idea guy,” which means he knows how to spot, create, and capitalize on multiple business opportunities at once. He has been consulting for companies, and even experts, to scale and grow their businesses for years while helping entrepreneurs do the same thing with his podcast Bacon Wrapped Business.
“I don’t think thinking outside the box is the answer, that’s a faulty way to go about coming up with ideas. I think you need to get a new box.” -Brad Costanzo
There’s never enough time to get all the knowledge Roland Frasier has bubbling off his brainpan, so we had to bring him on for another round for advice about acquiring companies to effectively scale your business no matter what stage you’re at. Don’t worry, a round 3 is already in the works!
For those not in the know, Roland is a world-famous dealmaker who started in real-estate when he was 18 and now advises over 150 major companies on how to monetize and grow their businesses. He is also passionate about entrepreneurs and gives them the tools and knowledge they need through DigitalMarketer.com and The Traffic & Conversion Summit, which we attend religiously every year.
We are still trying to digest the wealth of actionable advice Roland dropped on us in this hour, like how to plan a multi-exit strategy for that big payday, selling one company to scale all your other companies, and buying a huge, targeted audience for practically nothing. After you’re done, you’ll definitely want to check out our previous episode with Roland Frasier, then follow up with Carl Allen.
“I don’t think there’s a faster way to get into a business... or to grow your business than to buy one that already has what you want.” -Roland Frasier
For years, Danielle Town was practically stuffing the money she made as a start-up attorney under her mattress, even though her father is a famous investor. When the stress of her job was making her severely ill, her dad told her it was time to take that cash and make it work for her.
Now Danielle has discovered the secret to transforming financial fear into financial freedom. She is a New York Times bestselling author and avid personal investor, guiding countless people to overcome their reluctance in investing and put their money where their values are through her newsletter, courses, podcast, and books.
Time to take a peek at your savings account as Danielle shows Matt and Joe how to get over their fears of investing money, the best tool out there to invest on your own, and 4 principles to pick the right stocks. When you’re done, get some more financial advice from our conversations with Phil Town and Jason Rotman.
“Okay, this investment practice is not just about money, it’s about me and my life and being connected to my family and supporting my family...” -Danielle Town
In 2006, as Dave Woodward sat in an event hosted by Russell Brunson, it was slowly dawning on him that internet marketing would soon be the only game in town. So when Russell announced there was a signup sheet for anyone willing to buy him lunch, Dave ran to the table and put his name in every spot.
Now Dave is Chief Revenue and Business Development Officer of ClickFunnels, the leading software service providing entrepreneurs around the world the ability to design, build, and analyze any type of sales funnel they can dream of. Oh, he also happens to host the wildly popular Funnel Hackers Radio Podcast too, where he shares marketing secrets with the famously engaged ClickFunnels community he helped build.
Get ready as the guys hear all about the latest strategies Dave Woodward uses to provide value and build community with 30-day challenges, a new peer-to-peer customer service system, and using pretzels to get his dream guest on his podcast. When you’re done, get some more funnel tactics from our talks with Josh Haynam and Bastian Ernst.
2018 has been one hell of a year for us and we’re super excited to share what we’ll be bringing you next year, plus predictions for what 2019 has in store for your business.
We’ve loved making our business more accessible to our listeners over the past year and we’re doubling down in 2019. We have a new course in the works, mobile apps, marketing software, a live event, and much more. As always, we’re letting you in on all the strategies we’re using to leverage our content and get out from under the doom and gloom that’s descending on the old ways of doing business.
On this episode, we also go into what we think is going to be the new best practices in 2019, how to get your highest revenue with small, focused audiences, and the counter-intuitive industry shift in what makes a company valuable. Still want to know more about what makes The Hustle & Flowchart tick? Get in our heads with our recent Therapy Session, listen to our 100th Episode, or learn about our Journey To Seven-Figures.
“What most people go and do is target this broad audience where they think their ideal customer lives… but there’s a S#@% ton of your not-ideal customer in there!” -Matt Wolfe
“Step back before you make a campaign… actually think about giving value and understanding what people are interested in.” -Joe Fier
As a self-proclaimed podcast fanatic, Trevr Smithlin always wanted to find a way to help out the industry. First, he made an app that added visuals to podcast episodes, but for some reason, it didn’t sell. Then he thought, why not try something he was already good at?
Trevr founded AndertiseCast to streamline the clunky process of advertising in the podcast industry. His business has finally made it simple to manage campaigns, sponsor shows, and target audiences so that advertisers get results and podcasters get the revenue they need to focus on what they love.
On this episode, Matt and Joe get all the facts out of Trevr about how to build your podcast to land sponsors, picking the right podcast for your advertisement, and how to leverage episodes to increase revenues. After you’re done listening, go check out our talks with Nick Loper and Justin Malik & Lee Rankinen for more tips to make a successful podcast.
“You gotta take this thing super seriously if you want this to be your business… and there are new mechanisms to get to that level.” -Trevr Smithlin